utorok, 29. november 2011
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Dobry vecer, na zaklade dotazu pana Poustevnika, ktery na zpusobu silnicni dopravy v UK neshledava nic spatneho, patrne proto, ze jezdi pouze na kole a povazuje tuto okolnost za dostacujici na to, aby ji mohl posoudit, zakladam toto tema. Mam-li znovu a jasneji vyjadrit svuj nazor na tuto problematiku, budou to sama vulgarni slova a temi bych toto forum nerad kazil. Nicmene doprava v Uk mi pripada velmi nedoresena ci minimalne resena velmi zbrkle, jejich kruhove objezdy, ktere maji nekdy az 5 pruhu a jsou naprosto nelogicky umistene na mistech, kde by daleko lepe sedela bezna svetelna krizovatka a naopak kde by sedel kruhovy objezd je zase pouze krizovatka, nebo (a to snad umi jen tady) je to kruhovy objezd se semaforama. Nesmyslne resene pripojovaci a odbocovaci pruhy jsou dalsi velmi znepokojujici faktor, na mnoha mistech casove nenavazujici "zelena vlna" coz se projevuje predevsim za maleho provozu napriklad v noci, mnoho spatne fungujicich semaforu s cidlem na svetlo, nedostatecna upozorneni pri praci na silnici (za rok a pul jsem se setkal uz 6x nebo 7x s nefungujicim semaforem (pouze na jedne strane!!), ktery mel kyvadlove poustet dopravu u omezeni na jeden pruh. Tech bodu je hodne, bohuzel nemam toli casu zde ted psat. Ziji zde sice jen asi rok a pul, ale s necim takovym jsem se za dlouha leta ridicske profese nesetkal nikde jinde v Evrope. Vubec mi nevadi jejich leva strana a vidim v tom i jiste vyhody, ale mnou uvedene problemy me denne privadi k velkemu nepochopeni. Vim, ze anglani jsou neschopni magori, ale cekal bych, ze pri budovani silnicni dopravy nasadili ty nejlepsi. Proti absolutni neschopnosti ridit a s tim spojene zhovadilosti anglickych ridicu mi asi nikdo nic namitat nebude, ale docela by me zajimal Vas nazor na tuto problematiku. Moc cechu a slovaku tady neznam, ale z toho mala vsichni souhlasi, ze system silnicni dopravy zde je naprosto nesmyslny a v mnoha pripadech predevsim nebezpecny. Znam zde nekolik ridicu tiru puvodem z vychodni evropy a vsichni do jednoho me tvrzeni take potvrzuji. Snad jen posledni tecku napriklad to, ze velke kamiony zde jezdi az do sameho centra mest, kde na jejich rozmery nejsou naprosto dostatecne podminky a vznikaji tak velmi kuriozni situace, ktere jsou tady ovsem naprosto normalni. Jen dodavam, ze nejsem z Londyna a byl jsem tam autem vsehovsudy 5x a to jsem si odstal v kolone, cili nedovedu uplne posoudit situaci tam, prestoze mi vsichni tvrdi, ze je to uplne to same. Me zkusenosti jsou pouze ze stredni a severni anglie a porovnani mam jak jsem uvedl z vetsinou zapadoevropskych zemi, kam jsem jezdil pracovne a opravdu pravidelne, nebot jsem byl ridic z povolani. Pro pana Poustevnika timto vzkazuji, ze bohuzel nedokazu posoudit jak se jevi anglicka silnicni doprava pro cyklisty, nebot ja jich moc nepotkavam a kdyz uz nejakeho potkam tak vetsinou zavazi, nebot pro nej neni vyhrazen pruh. Ja osobne kolo pouzivam pouze k rekreacnim ucelum a silnici bych si s nim netroufnul pouzit, kolo dam na auto, dojedu do pritody a pak teprve nasedam. Lide, kteri kolo pouzivaji za ucelem dopravy mi vzdy pripadali jako blazni, ale to je oprvadu bez urazky i pres to, ze z ust Posutevnika jich na mou adresu jeste jiste par prijde, nebot jemu a jinym podobnym staci, kdyz se tady na neco ptam, nebo jen o kousek vybocim z rady. Vas ostatni ale prosim o reakci a nazor a predem za nej dekuji. Hezky predvanocni vecer pro vsechny nejen ridice :cheer:
12 years ago
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#8053
wow, tak cekal jsem par oponistu, ale tohle me sokovalo. Jedine mozne vysvetleni vidim v tom, ze se jedna pouze o nas region East Midlans. Jinak pravdou je, ze ceska doprava na tom dobre neni, ja najezdil vice po tech nemeckych, italskych a francouzskych ve vetsine (nebot jsme tam meli dobreho zakaznika) .. o ceske doprave se zminovat nebudu. Jinak pro damu, ktera psala o tom, jaci jsou kamionisti v Cechach mrchy, bych rad doporucil, aby si tu praci na tyden vyzkousela a hned pochopi .. pro pana Poustevnika odpovidam Ano, kdyz mi bylo patnact tak jsem na kole jezdival i po silnici, jinak opravdu ne. Cyklista nema na silnici co delat, to je muj nazor, nebot je nebezpecny motoristum i sam sobe. Vyjadreni pana, jehoz petileta profesionalni kariera ridice v Uk je jiste vetsi nez ma me potesilo, nebot prvne slysim od opravdoveho sofera, ze to tady az tak k placi nebude, nebo snad ne alespon vsude.
Vsem dekuji za nazory, prinesly mi mnoho optimismu do hlavy uz z duvodu, ze se tesim na novou zakazku nasi firmy v Kentu kam budu 4x tydne dojizdet a doufam, ze ta spatna situace je opravdu jen tady "kolem meho komina" a na noveho 4koloveho mazlika, ktereho v pondeli kupuju a nerad bych, aby mi ho nejaky anglan otrel po tydnu (coz si stejne porad myslim, ze se brzy po nakupu stane) a za urazky od nekterych, u kterych jsem je ocekaval se nezlobim. Ja myslim, ze Vas to brzo prejde a clovek si tady jednoho dne napise tema a nikdo mu nebude nadavat a ponizovat ho. Ja nikomu nic neudelal, vulgarne zde pokud mozno nepisi, tvrdsi slova vybiram jen pri defenzive a za jiste prvky arogance asi pul roku stare jsem se jiz nekolikrat omluvil (ostatne i to mi bylo vycteno), je to jakysi druh alergie, ale jelikoz mi pan Poustevnik zase napise, ze pisi moc dlouhe slohove prace, tak jeste jednou diky za nazory, optimismus a vsem preji pekny zbytek dne.
12 years ago
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#8054
lewisi, nerad ti to rikam, ale svejma recma mi normalne pripominas drocku ze staromaku :laugh:
12 years ago
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#8055
‘‘...a za urazky od nekterych, u kterych jsem je ocekaval se nezlobim....‘‘

A kdopak z nas te tentokrat urazil? Ja at hledam jak hledam, zadnou urazku na Lewise nenechazim (jenom ty od Lewise) – asi hledam spatne. Prosim o konkretni citace (zvlast ty ode mne), at se podobnych vyroku mam(e) moznost pro priste vyvarovat. Jinak diky za zpestreni dnesniho vecera :-).
12 years ago
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#8056
poustevnik: on je lewis tak nejak pasivne agresivni... ma sklony k ublizenosti

mimochodem, fakt Ti prijde, ze je to tu pro kola v pohode? bydlim v Thames Valley, krasny teren (tedy zadne kopce, prijemne), ale sama se na kola bojim, neb mi prijde, ze jsou tu maly silnice.... obcas jede clovek za cyklistou docela dlouho, nez se da bezpecne prejet. ale je fakt, ze se mi stalo jen jednou, ze by byl nekdo nastvanej... nejakej postarsi pan v nocem mercedesu, prislo mu, ze zdrzuju, neb jsem chtela objet cyklistu s dostatecnym odstupem, coz slo az za dalsi zatackou (on by to asi strihl, ale ja si radsi nechavam vic prostoru....)
12 years ago
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#8057
Maaazliku ;-)
Opatrne jezdi a nepokousej se ty ostrovni motoristy moc reformovat. Neni od Lewise prispevek, ktery by me vylozene nechytil za srdicko...
12 years ago
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#8058
Rad ctu lewisovy prispevky, nebot ve walesskem chmurne destivem pocasi me krasne pobavi. navic v teto predvanocni nalade jsem vice chapavejsi a mam vetsi porozumeni pro blizni sve, jimz nebylo doprano pevneho zdravi vcetne toho mentalniho.
12 years ago
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#8059
‘‘...mimochodem, fakt Ti prijde, ze je to tu pro kola v pohode?


Pro pedalisty je Britanie raj na zemi - bez ironie. Na kole mam sjezdenou velkou cast Evropy (od Madar az do Spanel), a nejbezpecneji jsem se citil na silnicich prave tady a pak ve Skandinavskych zemich. Nemecko, Francie, Belgie, Italie, Svycarsko, Rakousko – prujezd velkymi mesty nekdy des a hruza, zlaty Londyn - naprosto bez problemu.






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‘‘...bydlim v Thames Valley, krasny teren (tedy zadne kopce, prijemne), ale sama se na kola bojim, neb mi prijde, ze jsou tu maly silnice.... obcas jede clovek za cyklistou docela dlouho, nez se da bezpecne prejet. ale je fakt, ze se mi stalo jen jednou, ze by byl nekdo nastvanej... nejakej postarsi pan v nocem mercedesu, prislo mu, ze zdrzuju, neb jsem chtela objet cyklistu s dostatecnym odstupem, coz slo az za dalsi zatackou (on by to asi strihl, ale ja si radsi nechavam vic prostoru....)‘‘



Ty single lane farm tracks s passing places jsou pro kolo prave vubec ty nejlepsi a nejbezpecnejsi – obvykle kouzelna priroda, prakticky nulovy provoz, a kdyz uz nahodou auto potkas, nikdy nejede prilis rychle. Navic neni nejmensi problem zastavit, zalehnout do svahu a farmare pustit. Je to presne jak pises – radsi za tebou pojede kilometr jak s hnojem nez aby te ohrozil (spis by mozna sednul vyraz omezil) nejakym zbrklym predjizdenim. Vem si ze kdyz se tam potkaji 2 a jeden je trochu rozmernejsi, tak ten mensi musi nekdy treba i par set metru couvat az do mista kde se mohou vyhnout – a casto jde pak o milimetry :-).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvo2hwOTaUs

Nebo kdyz potkas farmare co zene se svymi psisky sve nekolikasethlave stado ovci po okrsce na svou farmu :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94jnyOGAWK8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMnF1uMRaok

Zdejsi ridici jsou proste ohleduplni, vzdy pockaji az te mohou bezpecne predjet, netroubi, nedorazeji, podekuji kdyz je clovek pusti, ale co hlavne – berou tohle vsechno jako naprostou samozrejmost. Je to radost tady jezdit – jedno jestli Anglie, Wales, nebo Skotsko:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CasjMFO632M

Vsak i statistiky dokazuji ze Britanie ma jedny z nejbezpecnejsich silnic v Evrope. Zapadni staty na kontinentu na tom zdaleka tak dobre nejsou.

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Road_safety_statistics_at_regional_level

A kulataky? Co muze byt bezpecnejsiho? Navic nepotrebujes semafory, ktere se teoreticky mohou porouchat (prakticky jsem to v UK jeste nezazil), prujezd je temer vzdy plynuly, a protoze je ten princip tak jednoduchy, nemuze s tim mit nikdo s common sense nejmensi problem. A kdyz je bezny kulatak malo, nasadi se magic roundabout jako maji v Swindon nebo Hemel Hempstead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPANKRHL9HU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dICyE9xtJZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDpRMhqHtc8&feature=related

Vypada to na prvni pohled mozna trochu chaoticky, ale kdyz to funguje a nejsou tam nehody, tak proc ne? Naproti tomu co je bezne treba v Parizi by urcite Britanie do mest nepustila:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lay8aZlsbB0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3pDh_NslKI&feature=related

Takze asi tak, no. Neni ceho se bat, k pumpickarum se Britove chovaji skoro jak k ohrozenemu druhu. A navic - nejlepsi pohled na svet je preci ze sedla bicyklu :-).
12 years ago
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#8060
honzo, mas recht! lewise by meli ordinovat misto paracetamolu - vysledek taky na howno, ale u paracetamolu se nikdy tak nenachechtam :laugh:
12 years ago
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#8061
Inspirace pro Lewise: 10 Reasons To Love Cyclists :-)

I don’t know why but apparently, there are some people who hate cyclists. I can’t understand. As a motorist I find many excellent reasons to love cyclists. Here are a few, I’m sure you can add a few more.

1. Target Practise.
A cyclist helps develops our advanced motoring skills. For example, how close can you get to a cyclist without knocking them off? This is quite an art – best practised in a white van whilst travelling 15mph above the speed limit and with mobile phone in your right hand. You have to be careful though because occasionally, cyclists may make ‘dangerous manoeuvres’ like move 10cm to the right to avoid a pothole in the road. If they have the audacity to move more than 1 foot from the edge of the road see no.2.

2. Practise Your Musical Rhythms.
If you see a cyclist in the road, this is an excellent reason to practise sounding your horn. You can practise the art of playing your horn very loudly or you could just practise a simple rhythm like repeatedly holding the horn down. Unfortunately, this can often lead to disappointment as for some reason, beeping a horn is insufficient to make a cyclist disappear from OUR roads.

3. Feeling of Superiority.
Now, some cyclists can having that annoying air of self-righteous superiority. They think they are saving the planet by eating home grown leeks and cycling to work. But, whilst we can tolerate their imaginary fantasies, we actually know it is us motorists who are saving the environment because of our decision to use unleaded petrol and occasionally buying 40% recycled plastic in our car air fresheners.

4. Funny To Splash People.
This is related to no.1 but actually more fun. With driving over a puddle we get to see more physical evidence of our driving skills. When the road is waterlogged if you drive really fast over a puddle, a big stream of water gets sprayed over other road users and pedestrians. Just watch the face of a cyclist after he gets soaked with your puddle – priceless!

5. Odds Are in Our Favour.
Crashes are inevitable on our roads, well at least they are inevitable if we don’t pay attention whilst driving and try to send a text or fall asleep at the wheel. In fact vehicles on British roads kill over 3,000 people a year, but, when you do crash into a cyclist, the odds are heavily in your favour. Their lycra shorts may make a dint in our paintwork, but, this can usually be fixed. Just image if cyclists drove Sherman tanks – when we knocked them down we would have more than a bit of dinted paintwork to deal with! Now that wouldn’t at all be fair – so we should be grateful to cyclists for not threatening our reinforced steel SUVs with nothing more than a thin layer of slightly ridiculous lycra.

6. Humour.
Driving is a pretty boring affair. I mean we get stuck in endless traffic jams and it can take one hour to travel just a few miles in Central London. Now it’s pretty annoying that cyclists don’t get so caught up in the traffic congestion – often sneaking up on the inside in these ridiculous cycle lanes. But, next time your stuck in a traffic jam feeling miserable that other people won’t leave their car at home, why not pass the time laughing at other road users. Cyclists are bound to be wearing some ridiculous clothing, or maybe they’re just getting wet. Look on the funny side of these absurd cyclists and suddenly those interminable traffic jams will fly by!

7. Cyclists don’t Wear Down the Road.
No one like potholes, (unless you have one of those 4*4s and like to show off your off-road skills). But, cyclists don’t wear down the road because their bikes weigh very little. Nevertheless, even though cyclists don’t create negative externalities, we can still complain cyclists don’t pay road tax (the fact it was abolished in 1937 doesn’t really matter, having a go at cyclists is usually a pretty easy way to get a contract with a major newspaper, even if you are just a half baked TV chef…)

8. Cyclists don’t Pollute the Environment.
No one likes the exhaust fumes created by cars. It is unpleasant and can cause health problems like asthma, not to mention the problems of global warming. But cyclists don’t create any pollution, at least if you don’t count the by product of all those organic baked beans, these hippie, sandal-wearing cyclists often eat.

9. Cyclists don’t take up Valuable Parking Space
Try parking in Central London, – a nightmare. You can spend hours driving around looking for a spot. Just imagine if every bike took the space of a car. We would never be able to park!

10. Cyclists don’t Cause Congestion.
Congestion would be even worse if cyclists started driving. Every cyclist means quicker journey times for us.
12 years ago
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#8062
10 Reasons to Take Up Cycling

If your reading this, chances are you already cycle or have an interest in cycling. But, nevertheless since it is National Bike week here in the UK, these are 10 powerful reasons to take up cycling.

1. Freedom.
Cycling gives a sense of freedom that sitting in a car can never give. Descending a hill on a bike is exhilarating, something you never feel in a car. Cycling also gives greater freedom about where to go. Many towns are encouraging pedestrian only areas. With a bike you can go down narrow lanes, on canal paths and often cut corners that you cannot do in a car.

2. Quicker Travelling.
In many congested towns, a bike can offer the quickest method of transport. For example, in London average speeds on roads amounts to a paltry 9mph (this is actually lower than 100 years ago!) Even a moderately fit cyclist will have no trouble in beating cars, buses and the underground. Also with a bike, you don’t have to spend time driving around looking for parking. You can park usually exactly where you want to end up.

3. Saves Money.
A good bike costs £200; a reasonable car will cost £5,000. With oil prices rising through the roof, cycling can also save significantly on petrol costs. The majority of car journeys are for distances less than 5 miles. These distances are easily cycleable. These short journeys also have the relatively highest petrol costs because cars are most inefficient at low speeds. It is estimated that leaving the car in the garage for the average commuter could save an estimate £74.14 ($150) per week (source: Cycling Weekly June 19th).

4. Lose Weight.
Cycling is a low impact aerobic exercise and is an excellent way of losing weight. Cycling can also be combined with shopping and commuting therefore, enabling very busy people to find time for exercise. It is also a lot cheaper than gaining membership to the gym. With obesity becoming an endemic problem in western society, cycling can play a key role in helping to keep the population in shape.

5. Health Benefits.
Cycling is good for the heart and can help reduce incidence of heart disease, one of the biggest killers amongst developed countries. Sedentary lifestyles also contribute to other ‘silent killers’ such as diabetes and high blood pressure.

6. Relieve Stress.
If you work in an office or have a stressful job, exercise such as cycling can be a powerful way to help reduce stress and take your mind off many problems. Exercise releases chemicals such as serontin. Serontin is known to promote a feeling of well being. But, also vigorous exercise is an effective way to take your mind off trifling problems. Often coming back from a bike ride, you can see problems in a new perspective.

7. It’s Egalitarian.
Everyone cycles, it is the great social leveller. Rich or poor, Oxford don or little kid, everyone can enjoy cycling.

8. Reduce Global Warming.
Cycling creates no pollution or Carbon dioxide emission. It provides a powerful way to help make a meaningful contribution to reducing pollution and preventing future global warming.

9. Less Accidents.
Unlike Cars, bikes are not lethal machines. In the UK, over 3,000 people a year die on the roads due to car accidents. An accident involving bikes may cause injury, but, very rarely will a bike be the cause of a fatal accident. If more people cycled it would definitely help reduce the death rate on our roads.

10. It’s Fun.
The bike has repeatedly been voted the most popular invention of the past 200 years. Cycling is simply great fun.
12 years ago
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#8063
http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/cycling/cycling-best-form-of-commuting/

Mrknete na prvni 2 komentare – ze by pouha shoda jmen? :-)
12 years ago
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#8064
mno jo no... jeste mit kde kolo schovat (nas domaci to nepovoluje).... ale je fakt, ze v lete by to byla vcelku pohoda :) pravda je, ze ridici jsou tu povetsinou velice slusni...
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